How do you grain going on for illegals getting free Medicaid robustness insurance pregnancy attention to detail is straining hospitals??
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/homepage/20070708_Difficult_delivery_for_the_undocumented.html
Looks to me like Federal, State, Local Government agencies as well as University and private sources are spending money foot over fist to give health precision to individuals who are here illegally:
Since 1997, 14 area hospitals own stopped delivering babies.
Undocumented women constitute 60 to 65 percent of about 3,000 prenatal patients treated at city robustness clinics yearly,
Eight years ago, she said, "all of them be insured."
Drexel University College of Medicine is using medical school tuition to keep its obstetrics program afloat as it staffs city robustness clinics
Rocio, a Mexican woman living in Norristown, is scheduled to enjoy her second baby, a boy, by cesarean section subsequent Sunday at Montgomery Hospital.
At that point, Medicaid, the federal and state insurance program for the poor, will pay for her hospital care and that of her newborn, who will be an American citizen.
In the meantime, Rocio, whose full name is being withheld by The Inquirer, is among an increasing number of illegitimate immigrants getting prenatal care at clinics run by Norristown's two hospitals.
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This is merely one hospital...in one city....this is happening across the nation...
Another example of our tariff dollars hard at work...sarcasm.
Midcenturydesigner...you say "they not often seek social services"...this article is a glaring proof that this is NOT true.
Medical care IS MOST DEFINITELY a social service that anybody living contained by the U.S. uses...Period. Are you going to try to insist that no illegal aliens uses hospitals?? How many hospitals contained by the Southwest have YOU been to?
Give an example of a "social service" that an improper alien does NOT use....here's a hint...hospitals are NOT one of them....good luck within finding even one that they DON'T use.
In my state they are irrelevant to get these benefits. They can no longer even go to the hospital for an emergency. They are denied treatment because of their status. A friend of mine have to go to a Hispanic Clinic to seek treatment for a severe cut he recieved from a trade in saw. Not all states are like the one you mentioned. The women here stir to clinics that are made for them. Clinica de Mama is a very popular one, and other clinics of this type are where the hispanic population progress to seek medical treatment, by doctors who are hispanic and do not charge them alot for services.
as a college student working as a pharmacy technician, yeah i see abundantly of people that dont speak english that are on medicaid (and generally if they dont speak any english they probably arent legal). from what ive hear from other people (i dont know if this is actually accurate) they draw from their benefits because the way the law is written, the parents of a child entitled to medicaid can also be eligible whether they are a citizen or not. so simply they get free healthcare from their anchor babies.
medicaid in common is a huge waste of money in my belief. id say smoothly 2 out of 3 people on medicaid are ungrateful *** holes leaching off of society that expect everything on a silver platter and frankly dont deserve the give a hand they get. and i cant even begin to relate you how many of them i suspect to be addicted to things like xanex, hydrocodone, oxycodone, etc. and using import tax dollars to support their habits. they get better healthcare than most ancestors with private insurance because medicaid covers a vast selection of medical procedures and drugs are only $1 max in my state so they tend to find the newest brand name stuff while the privately insured recurrently settle for older drugs with generics (not to mention brand given name is mandated for many drugs even though generics are available). surrounded by my opinion it should only cover things similar to antibiotics and drugs for life threatening conditions, not crap like allergy meds, viagra, agony killers (except for maybe short occupancy use from accidents), etc. but i guess its good, i mean we should be spending $100 on zyrtec to some extent than getting some $5 benadryl because we dont want unproductive members of society to have runny nose or itchy eyes while theyre watching judge judy all afternoon instead of working, now do we.... its only disinterested in the liberal world.
but what ticks me off the most is when they roll up contained by the drive through with a brand new $30k+ pickup conversation on their $200 cell phone... man i love being able to rant almost this freely online...
You just gotta love ignorant those like:
midcenturydesig above.
She thinks that illegals paying into SS make up for the billions they cost in education and medical assistance. EVERY independent study shows illegals use far more in services then they remuneration in taxes.
Just a quick point for fun - Lets estimate that here are 12 million illegals. And lets estimate that there are 1 million unendorsed kids getting public school educations. Lets also estimate there are 2 million anchor babies getting schooling. These info are VERY low but this is just for fun. Then lets estimate their costs for schooling at 12,000 per student per year (also fundamentally low). That means just to school illegals TAXPAYERS spend 36 billion a year. Since schools are not permitted to record immigration status and the majority of the costs are state/local the feed doesn't care.
This doesn't pay for their medical, food stamps, housing, crime, diseases they foster on others, etc.
Illegal immigration costs TAXPAYERS billions every year!
EDIT: Rap Cat - Are you seriously that slow upstairs?!?
Yes illegals also discharge some other taxes - but the amount they pay is usually very little. When they use a pretend SS # or a TIN # they often get earn income credits (which usually equates to more then they paid contained by the system to start with) back because they claim lots of children. And they live in low income neighborhoods, which enjoy low taxes, and they split the rent 20 ways.
By the way since I'm in imperative enforcement I have no choice but to pay my taxes since my salary is public information. And it could be a career decision for me to cheat on my taxes.
It pisses me off that they are ILLEGAL and can come here an have a little one and get free everything. If I worked in a hospital I would let somebody know them to take a hike. I would work surrounded by a hospital just to do that.
Well, I belive that all healthcare for everyone should be for free. So, I'm jolly about it? Its the Hippocratic Oath to treat anyone, regardless of their financial situation. And these were already free clinics. Sooo? How can they lose money? When they gross no money to begin with... Exacly. A pregnant prohibited deserves the same right too have her toddler delivered here because you gotta remember. That baby is a US citizen. Source(s): Common Sense
St Michael's Hospital surrounded by Milwaukee WI CLOSED because they had too many illegals coming near for FREE care!
THAT MAKES ME VERY ANGRY.
We used to go to another through hospital called St. Lukes. I cannot TELL you how many times we hold had to wait until they find an interpreter for a Mexican nearest and dearest ahead of us. I now COMPLAIN loudly! IN AMERICA you should speak ENGLISH AND...you should be here legally.
All states should follow the example of Fairy Queen's state. God knows Texas isn't one of them. (Parkland Hospital is an example).
Perhaps "midcenturydesigner" lives in one of those states within a glass bubble and is ignorant what go on in the rest of the country.
i feel mad and extreme anger similar to an urge to to something massive to them all something real frightening and shocking
STRAINING HOSPITALS?? HOW ABOUT BANKRUPTING THEM??
this country is over soon and that dont' sustain. umpteenth billions spent every year on criminals. we're the world's welfare state! me immigrant you racist i sue ACLU!
Illegals are hurting hospitals all over the country.
People, verbs to write to all you government official about all of your concerns. Don't be stillness. Write, email, fax, snail mail all of them.
EVERYBODY READ THIS
I thought I had heard it adjectives, but I continue to be amazed at some people posting on here ...midcenturydesigner (above)actually attempted to claim that "unauthorized aliens rarely use social services". Is anybody reading her post ignorant ample to believe this?? I sincerely hope not.
have you ever wondered to yourself that possibly they wouldn't have to pop the babies out at this rate if there be a better way for them to get here justifiably?
I think that never crossed your mind because you hate Mexicans altogethers.
hell yeah gain the thumbs down....
you dont have to have a SS number to recompense taxes and no ID theft either....you inevitability a tax ID to pay taxes and SS....you can simply do just that and cant substitute it for anything else ie drivers license, real SS #
youarewrongbob: I dont regard you know this considering you probably never paid taxes but financing education comes from property taxes, that resources if the illegal has a place to stay the innkeeper is paying property taxes....look it up bud....
"midcenturydesigner"
At the risk of being the laughing stock of InsuranceQuotesFAQ.com...even by those SUPPORTING illegal immigration...I suggest you alter or delete your post...and I submit this suggestion with the utmost sincerity. No one in their right mind is going to try to claim that any (poor) minority contained by this country...legal or illegal..."once in a while uses social services"....I'll leave it at that.
And if you honestly believe this (God forbid) I suggest you seek lessons on the matter.
I think the system wishes to be fixed.
When I use to jump to my prenatal appointments I was very nosey and watch how tons and tons of mexican women would come in there and use a Medi-Cal card. I have to pay like 400 a paycheck for medical insurance. These brawds afford birth for a living and it pisses me off how they are getting medical for free while us working poor have to pay envelope for it! That is why Americans are a dying breed. We dont breed llike rabbits because its not free!
The drain on the levy payer is comparable to terrorism. When legal Americans are losing their jobs to iffy workers, when Americans are losing their homes, when Americans are losing their health insurance because of illegal immigrant,this is terrorism. How many Americans will have trouble sleeping tonight wandering if they could lie alongside lose everything because of illegal immigration and the economic impact it is have on their lives? This Government is not protecting their own citizens!! If you do not stand up to protect yourself, no one will !
Try $70 million dollars to birth illegal immigrants' babies--in one hospital alone (Parkland hospital, Dallas County Tx)--and that be over 3 years ago.
Factor in the increase in bent aliens...factor in in the increase surrounded by medical trend cost (easily 10% annually in the past 3 years)
Over $80 million right presently by a very conservative estimate.
Remember : One single hospital in one single southwest city.
Link Below Source(s): http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/…
Sounds about par for the course
They don't really get anything free....They rate into social security about $58 Billion a year....Get your facts straight, Lou Dobbs...
Since illegitimate Mexican workers live in fear of deportation, they from time to time seek social services...
Sweety, if it is illegal, why does this govt adopt it?? You can't have it both ways....Hate these people, even though they DO money and then take their money....
Well consequently Whiz, why are you complaining? They are bankrolling your retirement....pffffffttttttttttt.!
Take away their benefits (which they really shouldn't own in the first place) and deport them!
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Looks to me like Federal, State, Local Government agencies as well as University and private sources are spending money foot over fist to give health precision to individuals who are here illegally:
Since 1997, 14 area hospitals own stopped delivering babies.
Undocumented women constitute 60 to 65 percent of about 3,000 prenatal patients treated at city robustness clinics yearly,
Eight years ago, she said, "all of them be insured."
Drexel University College of Medicine is using medical school tuition to keep its obstetrics program afloat as it staffs city robustness clinics
Rocio, a Mexican woman living in Norristown, is scheduled to enjoy her second baby, a boy, by cesarean section subsequent Sunday at Montgomery Hospital.
At that point, Medicaid, the federal and state insurance program for the poor, will pay for her hospital care and that of her newborn, who will be an American citizen.
In the meantime, Rocio, whose full name is being withheld by The Inquirer, is among an increasing number of illegitimate immigrants getting prenatal care at clinics run by Norristown's two hospitals.
Answers:
This is merely one hospital...in one city....this is happening across the nation...
Another example of our tariff dollars hard at work...sarcasm.
Midcenturydesigner...you say "they not often seek social services"...this article is a glaring proof that this is NOT true.
Medical care IS MOST DEFINITELY a social service that anybody living contained by the U.S. uses...Period. Are you going to try to insist that no illegal aliens uses hospitals?? How many hospitals contained by the Southwest have YOU been to?
Give an example of a "social service" that an improper alien does NOT use....here's a hint...hospitals are NOT one of them....good luck within finding even one that they DON'T use.
In my state they are irrelevant to get these benefits. They can no longer even go to the hospital for an emergency. They are denied treatment because of their status. A friend of mine have to go to a Hispanic Clinic to seek treatment for a severe cut he recieved from a trade in saw. Not all states are like the one you mentioned. The women here stir to clinics that are made for them. Clinica de Mama is a very popular one, and other clinics of this type are where the hispanic population progress to seek medical treatment, by doctors who are hispanic and do not charge them alot for services.
as a college student working as a pharmacy technician, yeah i see abundantly of people that dont speak english that are on medicaid (and generally if they dont speak any english they probably arent legal). from what ive hear from other people (i dont know if this is actually accurate) they draw from their benefits because the way the law is written, the parents of a child entitled to medicaid can also be eligible whether they are a citizen or not. so simply they get free healthcare from their anchor babies.
medicaid in common is a huge waste of money in my belief. id say smoothly 2 out of 3 people on medicaid are ungrateful *** holes leaching off of society that expect everything on a silver platter and frankly dont deserve the give a hand they get. and i cant even begin to relate you how many of them i suspect to be addicted to things like xanex, hydrocodone, oxycodone, etc. and using import tax dollars to support their habits. they get better healthcare than most ancestors with private insurance because medicaid covers a vast selection of medical procedures and drugs are only $1 max in my state so they tend to find the newest brand name stuff while the privately insured recurrently settle for older drugs with generics (not to mention brand given name is mandated for many drugs even though generics are available). surrounded by my opinion it should only cover things similar to antibiotics and drugs for life threatening conditions, not crap like allergy meds, viagra, agony killers (except for maybe short occupancy use from accidents), etc. but i guess its good, i mean we should be spending $100 on zyrtec to some extent than getting some $5 benadryl because we dont want unproductive members of society to have runny nose or itchy eyes while theyre watching judge judy all afternoon instead of working, now do we.... its only disinterested in the liberal world.
but what ticks me off the most is when they roll up contained by the drive through with a brand new $30k+ pickup conversation on their $200 cell phone... man i love being able to rant almost this freely online...
You just gotta love ignorant those like:
midcenturydesig above.
She thinks that illegals paying into SS make up for the billions they cost in education and medical assistance. EVERY independent study shows illegals use far more in services then they remuneration in taxes.
Just a quick point for fun - Lets estimate that here are 12 million illegals. And lets estimate that there are 1 million unendorsed kids getting public school educations. Lets also estimate there are 2 million anchor babies getting schooling. These info are VERY low but this is just for fun. Then lets estimate their costs for schooling at 12,000 per student per year (also fundamentally low). That means just to school illegals TAXPAYERS spend 36 billion a year. Since schools are not permitted to record immigration status and the majority of the costs are state/local the feed doesn't care.
This doesn't pay for their medical, food stamps, housing, crime, diseases they foster on others, etc.
Illegal immigration costs TAXPAYERS billions every year!
EDIT: Rap Cat - Are you seriously that slow upstairs?!?
Yes illegals also discharge some other taxes - but the amount they pay is usually very little. When they use a pretend SS # or a TIN # they often get earn income credits (which usually equates to more then they paid contained by the system to start with) back because they claim lots of children. And they live in low income neighborhoods, which enjoy low taxes, and they split the rent 20 ways.
By the way since I'm in imperative enforcement I have no choice but to pay my taxes since my salary is public information. And it could be a career decision for me to cheat on my taxes.
It pisses me off that they are ILLEGAL and can come here an have a little one and get free everything. If I worked in a hospital I would let somebody know them to take a hike. I would work surrounded by a hospital just to do that.
Well, I belive that all healthcare for everyone should be for free. So, I'm jolly about it? Its the Hippocratic Oath to treat anyone, regardless of their financial situation. And these were already free clinics. Sooo? How can they lose money? When they gross no money to begin with... Exacly. A pregnant prohibited deserves the same right too have her toddler delivered here because you gotta remember. That baby is a US citizen. Source(s): Common Sense
St Michael's Hospital surrounded by Milwaukee WI CLOSED because they had too many illegals coming near for FREE care!
THAT MAKES ME VERY ANGRY.
We used to go to another through hospital called St. Lukes. I cannot TELL you how many times we hold had to wait until they find an interpreter for a Mexican nearest and dearest ahead of us. I now COMPLAIN loudly! IN AMERICA you should speak ENGLISH AND...you should be here legally.
All states should follow the example of Fairy Queen's state. God knows Texas isn't one of them. (Parkland Hospital is an example).
Perhaps "midcenturydesigner" lives in one of those states within a glass bubble and is ignorant what go on in the rest of the country.
i feel mad and extreme anger similar to an urge to to something massive to them all something real frightening and shocking
STRAINING HOSPITALS?? HOW ABOUT BANKRUPTING THEM??
this country is over soon and that dont' sustain. umpteenth billions spent every year on criminals. we're the world's welfare state! me immigrant you racist i sue ACLU!
Illegals are hurting hospitals all over the country.
People, verbs to write to all you government official about all of your concerns. Don't be stillness. Write, email, fax, snail mail all of them.
EVERYBODY READ THIS
I thought I had heard it adjectives, but I continue to be amazed at some people posting on here ...midcenturydesigner (above)actually attempted to claim that "unauthorized aliens rarely use social services". Is anybody reading her post ignorant ample to believe this?? I sincerely hope not.
have you ever wondered to yourself that possibly they wouldn't have to pop the babies out at this rate if there be a better way for them to get here justifiably?
I think that never crossed your mind because you hate Mexicans altogethers.
hell yeah gain the thumbs down....
you dont have to have a SS number to recompense taxes and no ID theft either....you inevitability a tax ID to pay taxes and SS....you can simply do just that and cant substitute it for anything else ie drivers license, real SS #
youarewrongbob: I dont regard you know this considering you probably never paid taxes but financing education comes from property taxes, that resources if the illegal has a place to stay the innkeeper is paying property taxes....look it up bud....
"midcenturydesigner"
At the risk of being the laughing stock of InsuranceQuotesFAQ.com...even by those SUPPORTING illegal immigration...I suggest you alter or delete your post...and I submit this suggestion with the utmost sincerity. No one in their right mind is going to try to claim that any (poor) minority contained by this country...legal or illegal..."once in a while uses social services"....I'll leave it at that.
And if you honestly believe this (God forbid) I suggest you seek lessons on the matter.
I think the system wishes to be fixed.
When I use to jump to my prenatal appointments I was very nosey and watch how tons and tons of mexican women would come in there and use a Medi-Cal card. I have to pay like 400 a paycheck for medical insurance. These brawds afford birth for a living and it pisses me off how they are getting medical for free while us working poor have to pay envelope for it! That is why Americans are a dying breed. We dont breed llike rabbits because its not free!
The drain on the levy payer is comparable to terrorism. When legal Americans are losing their jobs to iffy workers, when Americans are losing their homes, when Americans are losing their health insurance because of illegal immigrant,this is terrorism. How many Americans will have trouble sleeping tonight wandering if they could lie alongside lose everything because of illegal immigration and the economic impact it is have on their lives? This Government is not protecting their own citizens!! If you do not stand up to protect yourself, no one will !
Try $70 million dollars to birth illegal immigrants' babies--in one hospital alone (Parkland hospital, Dallas County Tx)--and that be over 3 years ago.
Factor in the increase in bent aliens...factor in in the increase surrounded by medical trend cost (easily 10% annually in the past 3 years)
Over $80 million right presently by a very conservative estimate.
Remember : One single hospital in one single southwest city.
Link Below Source(s): http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/…
Sounds about par for the course
They don't really get anything free....They rate into social security about $58 Billion a year....Get your facts straight, Lou Dobbs...
Since illegitimate Mexican workers live in fear of deportation, they from time to time seek social services...
Sweety, if it is illegal, why does this govt adopt it?? You can't have it both ways....Hate these people, even though they DO money and then take their money....
Well consequently Whiz, why are you complaining? They are bankrolling your retirement....pffffffttttttttttt.!
Take away their benefits (which they really shouldn't own in the first place) and deport them!
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